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Revan is Female by SmileWhenDead Revan is Female by SmileWhenDead
Revan is female. Nuff said.


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Edit: This is a warning, any comment about how "Lucas Arts owns this" or "Revan is male" or "blah blah blah" will be deleted, marked as spam and hidden. Comment sexist bullshit at your own stupid risk.

For those you ass hats saying Revan was cannon male, you are WRONG. Revan can be whoever the fuck you want Revan to be. The only reason there is Cannon is for MEDIA and Bioware did want Revan to be Female but Lucas Arts went the Male way for MARKETING! Don't believe me? Google it.

If you don't like the stamp, kindly stfu about it. This is also NOT a sexist comment since I am MALE! So shut the fuck up you fucking asshat haters. I fucking swear to God you fucking guys who are like this, I bet you don't have girlfriends. :P

Also, this is a post on the Lucas Arts board made by a female gamer. She is the reason I think we need more STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS IN GAMING!

"First off, I'd like to state that the Gender of both Exile and Revan were both done for commercial means to give them a Gender. Technically neither of them have been given a canon Gender, but needed one in order to put the character into wiki/books/commercial/ect. I have the article somewhere and I'll fish it out if needed.

Revan:
Now, I will agree with Allronix on female Revan. After playing male and female, female just somehow had a deeper story that gave every character more meaning. It gave Juhani a back story (even though they cut it from the game), gave so much more conversation with Carth into his character and yet you still got to know practically everything there is to know about Bastila as well... just without the love. It gave the hidden ending, and for the first time in really Star Wars history it gave a women a chance to take up the plate as an incredibly strong character instead of the still typical short sighted or overly harsh women.
I've played all 4 possible ways to play Kotor and I believed completely, and still do, that Revan was a Canon female due simply to so much more content. Believe it or not, I only found out in about the last month that Revan is "supposed" to be a guy after years of playing.

Allignment? My personal belief is that Revan does not have an allignment. Malak says it, Revan's story says it, Kreia says it. There is no canon proof at all, but I believe Revan to be Gray Side Female with Light Side Kotor ending.

Exile:
As I think most of us can agree, TSL needed a lot more work. Personally I place Exile as female as I feel that creates a stronger bond between her and Kreia, and to also be more of a Light/Gray Side. No mean to sound offensive in any way possible, but I also believe that the personal exile, cutting oneself off from the Force that completely, bonding with everybody that easily, and becoming that emotionally detached would come from more of a devistated female than male. Again, no means is that an attempt to take any sort of jab at men.

Mical: Overdone in fics, but he is a nice source of info, opinion, and relationship. He should have followed the male Exile regardless, even though the Mical works better for female.

Brianna: This is where I believe TSL lost out more. I personally believe Brianna follows the Exile regardless of Gender, but gets closer to the male than female. She would be a great character to bring the Exile to a better understanding of personal strength and will of mind regardless of Gender.

Sion: The fact the Exile, as a female, has so much affect on him and eventually redeems him is so incredibly Star Wars I can barely express it. In the Telos Restoration Mod Sion gets more dialog and options to help the Exile that were not there previously that give the feel this was how it was supposed to be... to me anyway.

The gender specific characters joining the party or not was a huge disapointment to me and the second I get TSL for PC I'm grabbing the Brianna female mod. I believed that Juhani situation pushed it a little, even though I am highly highly disapointed they cut her backstory, but full on characters not joining or not...*sigh*. Cutting so much of the canon and lore into two seperate pieces is absurd and should never have been done.

I'll admit it, I'm also biased to Star Wars for always making the male the honorable hero while the women get stuck with bad dialog at times and simply little to do but sit back and watch the men deal with everything.

Here is a quote that I think is beautiful in all rights, summing up why I choose to play female as a female:
Yes, this seems like another ackward an ill-placed post. But I believe those who read my work should know this: I DO try as much as possible to work every and all official Lucasfilm/arts sanctioned bit of information upto a point: that point being a female Revan character—the choice to go canon on this character given the multiplicity of male heroes in the Star Wars genre irks me, and therefore will never earn my support—unless Lelan Chee recants and there is a female Revan doll along side Barbie who can take her mask off and you can dress up. I don’t agree with the idea of cliche = canon as a Star Wars fan. The male hero cliche is old and over used in the Star Wars genre. If its creator is to be true his vision, then he will allow for change, otherwise the SW genre will be forgotten not by unwilling fans but by its own creator.

As a woman I used to dream of reading every Star Wars book to my children—but I refuse to send the message to any of my girls that they are less able to become heroes simply because George Lucas says so. That is my rant—girls by the Force can bear life—and by the Force and in the service of the Force they more luminous beings… my fic reflects this
This is Star Shadow's fic btw and it is one of the most brilliant things I have ever read: [link]"
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Edited Jan 3, 2015  Student General Artist
Revan is awesome, no matter what gender he/she is.
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PearOfDiscord Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2015
Seconded to the moon and back.
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GoldenFreddy1 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2015  Student General Artist
Revan is love Revan is life.
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MTibbs-89 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2014  Student General Artist
I agree with this. Sadly, the books/TOR sorta shoot this down, but the game (KOTOR) itself seems to back it up completely.

I also prefer female Shepard as canon, either romancing Garrus or nobody. Don't know if you play Mass Effect, though...
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xAprilyne Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I know it's canon, but....

LOOK AT ALL THE FUCKS I GIVE. JUST LOOK. 
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Zoanaak Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
No, he is not. You see his face in SWTOR.
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MysteriousSwordsman Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
ill allow this if we trade ravan as a female and make the exile male :p
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rocketman399 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
not according to the cannon. swtor says it all
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, my head cannon is greater than a sexist cannon. Thanks pal!
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rocketman399 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015
 Starwars is full of strong female characters, so what if one of them is a guy.  Revan wouldn't be nearly as awesome if it hadn't been for Bastila Shan.  and their great great great... about three hundred years worth of greats... Satele Shan became grand master of the jedi, and she was a woman.  there I was not trying to be sexist.... just overbearingly nerdy, I meant no offense.
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CompCube Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
SCREW CANON AND DREW KARPYSHYN
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
SCREW THE CANNON!!! RAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Archsteel Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
XD I managed to completely flip the game around. I played Revan as a woman and the Exile as a man... Woops.
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I did the same thing!!
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Archsteel Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
XD
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kal444 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
Listen I agree that the games and series that involve Revan do feel deeper when the character is female, as well as The Exile.
But I'm sorry to say, Revan is male and The Exile actually is female (Meetra Sulik).  Hell Revan and Bastilla have a kid (it's touching really, the book that is.  Revan goes out and sacrifices his life and centuries more of pain at the hands of the real sith for both his wife and kid so they don't have to.  Name of the book is Revan, personally thought it was great, try it.)
And please it's not sexist, it just is.  As well as the media taking a large turn towards more female protagonists and antagonists, not all are stellar, but hey nothing's perfect.
But like I said it'd be better if Revan was female, 'specially in the games.
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Dude, you lost me at "Revan is male". Not in my head. Revan is and always will be boss ass bitch to me.
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Jelna Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014
I love this book! And you are right.
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VampireHunterAmanda Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm a dude, an FTM to be exact, and I totally approve of this. It always bothered the hell out of me that there were little to no huge game-changing women in SW (unless one counts Darth Lumiya or Kreia). Women and men deserve to have awesome female heroes!

*salutes*
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sweet! I too am FTM so it's nice to get a comment from another person who is as well. Sorry for my late reply!! We should totally be friends or something because you sound awesome!
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VampireHunterAmanda Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:icongwompplz: FRIEND MODE ACTIVATED! :D
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ElsaCoperson Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
YAY!
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad to see more people agreeing! Thank ya kindly for the comment!!
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Sidhre Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
my revan is male and likes to give juhani lots of love <3
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I approve of this!
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Sidhre Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
and now i just fucking missed the F and the E.... i should stop drinking while on the internet, forgive me. D:
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JediKnightCJR12 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
sorry, it's been confirmed that Revan is maleThis probe's for you! STFU you idiot! STFU you idiot! 
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't give 3 flying fucks if it's "cannon". It's sexist. Get over it. Revan can be whatever fucking gender Revan wants cause it's motherfucking Revan. Check and mate.
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Jelna Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014
Sorry but.. why it's sexist? It's just cannon and yeah.. Revan and Bastila are married. Do you call it sexist, because you don't like it?
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
(sigh) No, it's sexist because they took a strong character who is very versatile and made it MALE. Why? There was no reason in the world other than typical geek male privileged morons making the decisions. I cannot even begin to get into this because the complexity of our social structure may break your brain.  
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Jelna Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014
No need to be rude, man. A female Revan would be nice, but I like the male version too. It's nothing so important.
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CHatterBOx010 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is simply beautiful!! Not only the picture (F***ING EPIC!!!!:XD:)
But also the description :D I honestly had no clue that Revan was supposed to be female, so when I read it in the description, I literally put my laptop down and told my brother (who didn't believe me :P)
I really love the picture :D It makes a new high for amazing-ness :)
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you! Yeah, bioware had intentions of making her female but lucasarts (which is no more lol) had other thoughts. In my own head cannon, Revan is female and always will be female. I played as male a few times but the female Revan felt right to me so I wanted to make a stamp for others who believe the same. However, I've been getting more sexist comments then I would like. D:
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DejectedOsprey Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
It's true that it really doesn't matter if Revan had a dick or not, because they practically told us that in the beginning of the second game. Even though I'm a guy I must say there aren't enough female protagonists...
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly my point! There is a serious lack of female protagonists in not only the Star Wars universe but in media period. It's something we need to change! 
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Imaplode Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
What about Leia, Padme, Visas, Bastila, Satele, Ania, Tenel Ka, Tahiri, Meetra Surik, Ailyn Vel, Sintas Vel, Mitra Gev, Aayla Secura, Jaina Solo, Shaak Ti, Yaddle, Nomi Sunrider, Castilla Ming, Mara Jade, Barriss, Luminara, Siri Tachi, T'ra Saa and Sabine?
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Leia was wonderful... in the extended universe. Now, I am not going to knock Leia because of the time period she was considered a good female character because it was the 70s and there was no one else! Well, minus Wonder Woman but that's a separate argument all together. Anyway, Leia was good for her time but she lacked things that could have pushed her to the status of great female hero. They didn't really pay much attention to Leia's powers or the fact that she was more than just "strong female character with a pistol oooo". We see her grow in the extended universe to become a very powerful Jedi politician. That road could have began in Empire Strikes Back but instead, because of the time period and the men writing it, they didn't even fathom that possibility. That's a little insulting. Don't you agree?

As for the others, as wonderful as they are, they do not get enough exposure. People should give a shit about how boss of a bitch Jania Solo is but they don't. The fandom love for her and the others is a little low. I hope that more women get inspired by those characters and continue to create REAL female heroes.
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Imaplode Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
Can't argue with that!
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Amen, Smile. Amen.

Every single piece of IN-GAME content strongly suggests Revan and Exile are both female. All these other posters who are saying 'Well in the stupid-ass book nobody cares about, Revan's a male lol!' I quote the Wise Mr. Plinkett when I say 'I don't care what's in tha fucking book! I'm talking about the movie!!'

And frankly, I loved Star Wars books up until they brought in the You's Hung Vaughn or whatever the frack they're called, killed Chewie, Ithor, Anakin, Jacen, Wedge, Qwi, Mon Mothma and essentially ran my childhood through the mud by saying 'Remember all those wonderful characters you grew up with? Let's see what happens when we take a dump on them all!'

Anyway, made a journal alluding to the female angle right here [link]
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you! Finally, someone else gets it.
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therebeunicorns Featured By Owner May 24, 2013
I must say I would love it so much more if Revan were female, but even though I am female it doesn't bother me THAT much that Revan is canon male for marketing. It was their choice to make him male as creators and I respect that.

Though in the end, I will never play kotor as male Revan because I am in love with the female story-line...I try to picture the male story and it just doesn't come close for me. Now if they really loved me Revan would be female and in love with Bastila xD But that may be asking a bit too much. I love the Carth romance/story, but I am lesbian and thus preferred to romance Bastila.

I haven't read the book and based on it's reception I don't plan on it but if they made a Revan movie (I'm dreaming again) ever, I wouldn't mind if Revan was male, I'd still love to see a movie version of kotor regardless.

"The male hero cliche is old and over used in the Star Wars genre. If its creator is to be true his vision, then he will allow for change, otherwise the SW genre will be forgotten not by unwilling fans but by its own creator."
--- I definitely agree with this point in the respect that in the future it would be wonderful to see a female SW heroine/villain save/destroy the galaxy. And I mean a female heroine/villain that is taken as seriously as a male and not sexed up. It's one thing to have a pretty heroine and another to sex her up ridiculously to appeal to male fans.

I'm not a huge Star Wars fan that knows everything about the universe, so I don't really want to debate as I probably DON'T know as much as the big fans. xD
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The reason I was upset is because I wanted them to finally include a strong woman who wasn't afraid of anything. I'm a bit of a feminist even though I'm male. I think we have far too many male heroes for little boys and not enough female bad asses for the girls. Know what I mean? Bioware wanted that but LucasArts cock blocked them. What's frustrating is that I can't find the article that spoke about that. It was the telling of how LucasArts took the character from Bioware. They were the ones who created Revan in the first place. Kinda dick if you ask me.

I'm pansexual myself so I loved all of the romances. I put in a patch to make my female Revan fall for Bastila. I even painted them together on the Light Side for the their victory. Revan turning her good with the will of love and the force. Oh, just so bloody perfect! I'm a bit of a romantic.

The book was rubbish. You're smart to avoid it. I would like a movie but only if they go with Bioware's intention of a female Revan. ;)

Tell me about it. I'm glad that they didn't sex up the female versions of Revan and for the most part SW females are strong. If you are looking at the alternative universes. The books are quite good. I would recommend reading the stories of Leia and Han. Their kids are quite wonderful. :)

You're fine. You gave me a concise opinion and I truly respect you for it. :)
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Jelna Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014
Sorry for bothering but.. Why do you think the book is rubbish? And I understand your opinion a little better now. But Meetra is a strong female hero.
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SmileWhenDead Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not so much that I believe it to rubbish, it's more the fact that I find most of the writers to be dry and sexist. I rather see more of these extended universes written by women. We have enough male writers telling their stories.
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BTIsaac Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013
Yeah, personally I found female Revan to be more interesting as well, though I usually define Revan as male when playing TSL - I figure one sex-change is enough messing with the timeline, considering how ironically, I also cannot immagine Surik as anything other than male.
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Dictionofgame Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dont be a bigot. Comments that are sexist should exist. Otherwise we have a dystopia of intolerance. Disagreeing isn't bad, censorship is.
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Firestarawesome Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is so god damn true.
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JediKnightCJR12 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013
Actually revan has been confirmed to be a male ever since star wars the old republic came out
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LaindonAthletic Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013
Revan is a kick ass male who can't be killed but if you want a kick ass female then it is Lighting from final fantasy. I can see why you would what Dark Lord Revan Saver of the Republic to be a female because he is cooler than cool. The argument you used state Revan is female "Revan is female. Nuff said." is one of the best lines I've heard or read. My mate Bobby still asked the most funnest thing of "How do you spell GCSE?". Now you found that funny or think my friend is an idiot. May the force be with you, always.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Lightning from Final Corridor?

*Stomach churns* Blegh...

Final Fantasy hasn't really done it for me since the SNES days. I can't stand Lightning.

Revan was, in the first two games, STRONGLY implied to be female. In the second game, Revan is presumed to have been female unless you correct Atton when he speaks of her.
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